Videos

Ok, it's no secret how much we value your feedback. So, in an attempt to keep our levels of communication strong, we've created these videos. Hopefully they will:
  • Help us communicate how we think about things in the space of Web services
  • Help us illustrate things about Service Factory (coming soon)
  • Give you something specific to talk to us about
And just like everything else, we're interested to know what you think about them.

We've removed the older (out of date) videos and are in the process of creating new ones. Please keep checking back here. Thanks for your patience.
  • 7 Feb 2007: Don introduces a number of ways we think about Web services. Do you agree? Watch it now (Length: 6:01 - Size: 1.97 MB)
  • 2 Feb 2007: Don and Dragos walk through the Web service domain model the team is working with. Watch it now (Length: 05:14 - Size: 1.41 MB)

Last edited Jun 27, 2008 at 4:58 PM by donsmith, version 17

Comments

rabaho Jun 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM 
Video download links are dead. Could someone get it fixed please?

farooqmian May 22, 2008 at 1:19 PM 
hi, video and presentation download links are in correct. can this be fixed?

Kurt_Claeys Feb 22, 2008 at 1:32 PM 
I posted a video with a walkthrough of the Web Service Software Factory on <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/belux/msdn/nl/chopsticks/default.aspx?id=307">http://www.microsoft.com/belux/msdn/nl/chopsticks/default.aspx?id=307</a>

Cos Oct 13, 2007 at 7:12 PM 
Videos are great! Especially the Boeing SCM demo one (I needed to understad the WSDL import which didn't work for me at first). Thanks a lot.
Now, it might help to share maybe a little SQL to create the tables that would support the messages so that one could go on creating the entities and logic to "finish up" the story (I know it would have helped me, as I'll go ahead and figure it out on my own) since it's a great scenario. Do you guys have any of that? I'll be willing to share my stuff to complete the walkthrough but I don't want to do the job twice if there's something already.
Thanks again, Don!

Cos

adpatel Apr 2, 2007 at 11:32 PM 
Good Work. Hope it continues in next releases...

MarlonSmith Feb 21, 2007 at 2:45 AM 
The model looks great, matches very well to what we are doing with services today. More intrested how you are modeling, Service Agent, Brokers, Security, Validation and Versioning. Will some of these be attributes of the QOS or Service Host model? Very esay to see how this could be tooled for WCF and WF, great work so far.

donsmith Feb 17, 2007 at 4:50 AM 
Benjy, I think both your assertions and your comments could not be more correct or appropriate. I will definitely have another look at the blueprints and Erl's book and look for places we agree and disagree so we can be more explicit about how our opinions compare. Also, be on the lookout for Shy Cohen's article on _service-oriented ontologies and taxonomies_ in the next issue of the Architecture Journal.

Thanks for comments on BTS. I'm sorry for not being more forthcoming, but I will *strongly* recommend you to keep an eye on what we're doing (not necessarily this project) for the rest of the calendar year. I think you'll be pleased. That's all I can say at this point ;)

The same holds true for modeling. The team and I had our iteration planning meeting today to define the work we'll be doing over the next couple of weeks. I get as giddy as a schoolgirl in a candy shop when I think about what we're building. Hell, *I* can't wait to use it ... and I really can't wait to show it off. Thanks, Don

santoshbenjamin Feb 16, 2007 at 5:03 PM 
Good stuff. When you do the taxonomy etc, can you also bear in mind industry initiatives such as the OASIS SOA Blueprints please? MSFT had released an old ref implementation of the spec for the blueprint and i find the taxonomy and layering very useful (Application Services, Data Services,Business Services, Process Services etc). This kind of model is also reflected in Thomas Erls book on SOA. Im currently using that kind of model and i think it would be good to see some synergy between what we get here and the blueprints. Of course, you might feel that the blueprint is rubbish and have a better one, but if so please publish it. Since most of my work involves Biztalk i would be interested in seeing how we can make this factory work with Biztalk (for instance some of the business processes that are developed as orchestrations could be called from the parent ASMX/WCF service. Sure, Biztalk orchestrations can also be published as ASMX, but thats a very thin watered down facade and there could be better ways of fronting Biztalk orchs with decent WCF/ASMX interfaces.

In terms of the domain model, i actually think there is a cool application for it. It acts as a nice spec for a web service and if you get into graphical modelling of your webservice, then you can put all that in and not only generate code but also some nice documents.!! Useful for us time-pressed developers. what do you think?

cheers
Benjy

Benoit Feb 12, 2007 at 6:46 AM 
Great videos!